tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post7297724974825874899..comments2020-05-10T14:58:23.496-07:00Comments on Hellenisti ginoskeis: do you know Greek?: Hebrews 2:3—three prepositional phrasesDJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-58043035749626104372007-03-06T17:33:00.000-08:002007-03-06T17:33:00.000-08:00That's a less literal rendering within my literal ...That's a less literal rendering within my literal rendering. I take it as idiomatic. Very woodenly, it would be "which having taken a beginning to be spoken." Paul Ellingworth (NIGTC) says that the expression is found in secular Greek and Philo (140).DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-87189646355182221092007-03-06T15:05:00.000-08:002007-03-06T15:05:00.000-08:00Okay I've been at this too long today. The phrase...Okay I've been at this too long today. The phrase, ἀρχὴν λαβοῦσα λαλεῖσθαι, in your wooden translation comes out "which having first been spoken." I've got the "first" in ἀρχὴν and having been spoken from λαλεῖσθαι(infinitive present form of lalew). But what happened to the λαβοῦσα (which appears to be a aorist partiple form of lambavw)?Pat Parkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00521347343967082520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-83794722255393076842007-03-06T11:26:00.000-08:002007-03-06T11:26:00.000-08:00Dan,I'll pray for that. Thanks for your heart to ...Dan,<BR/><BR/>I'll pray for that. Thanks for your heart to share your gift in this way.<BR/><BR/>I guess I should at this point apologize to classmates if our work load just went up, but I enjoy the "bite sized examples" in their context. Working through the verbs forms has been helpful, as well as exposure to some new vocab. <BR/><BR/>Next I need to figure out how to grab a Greek font to post Pat Parkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00521347343967082520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-5258661586389741302007-03-06T07:00:00.000-08:002007-03-06T07:00:00.000-08:00Hm. Well, first, thanks; what a nice idea.A couple...Hm. Well, first, thanks; what a nice idea.<BR/><BR/>A couple of ways occur to me.<BR/><BR/>One is: could require a weekly reading report, where they take one post from that week, summarize what it says, what they got from it, plus agree/disagree.<BR/><BR/>Alternately, you could have a brief period on Fridays discussing the week's posts. Tell students they'll be graded on their participation. DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-25325783951659275122007-03-06T06:50:00.000-08:002007-03-06T06:50:00.000-08:00Dan,I have already pointed my first year Greek stu...Dan,<BR/><BR/>I have already pointed my first year Greek students to this blog, so that step is already taken. Maybe I could have Pat give a "testimonial" to encourage other students in the class to follow his lead in visiting and commenting.<BR/><BR/>What I'm considering is whether I could do something like "require" students to post on this blog in order to "make" them join the conversation (Matthew S. Harmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506399043911656897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-30057920580674480682007-03-06T06:40:00.000-08:002007-03-06T06:40:00.000-08:00Seriously?Well, for my part, I'd just make my day ...Seriously?<BR/><BR/>Well, for my part, I'd just make my day if Greek profs around the country (and world) saw value to what I was doing here, pointed their students to it, and joined in themselves. Heck, I'd even be open to the idea of making this a team-blog one day.<BR/><BR/>If I were still teaching in an institution and knew of a site like this—which as far as I know is the only one of its DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-851825095188921662007-03-06T06:35:00.000-08:002007-03-06T06:35:00.000-08:00Dan,Be careful what you wish for :)In all seriousn...Dan,<BR/><BR/>Be careful what you wish for :)<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness I am wrestling with how the blogosphere might be used in the context of my classes. If you have any suggestions let me know.Matthew S. Harmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506399043911656897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-78552009967187264172007-03-06T05:59:00.000-08:002007-03-06T05:59:00.000-08:00Do I see a new link in your next semester Required...Do I see a new link in your next semester Required Reading list, professor?<BR/><BR/>(c;DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-56205680544195100752007-03-06T05:19:00.000-08:002007-03-06T05:19:00.000-08:00Pat,It's nice to see one of my first year students...Pat,<BR/><BR/>It's nice to see one of my first year students using his Greek during Spring Break. :)Matthew S. Harmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506399043911656897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-16104150123493134002007-03-06T04:50:00.000-08:002007-03-06T04:50:00.000-08:00Thanks, Pat, and praise God. You could hardly have...Thanks, Pat, and praise God. You could hardly have more perfectly expressed one of my main goals in creating this blog.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514726127775216123.post-55520310358381005712007-03-06T04:48:00.000-08:002007-03-06T04:48:00.000-08:00Thanks Dan for driving this first year Greek stude...Thanks Dan for driving this first year Greek student to his Greek New Testament and BDAG, sharpening tools along the way. You're adding to my understanding of the importance of studying the languages and increasing my appetite for more.Pat Parkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00521347343967082520noreply@blogger.com